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		<title>By: thatwoman</title>
		<link>http://buckeyerino.com/2008/05/04/is-a-courthouse-historic-because-its-a-courthouse/#comment-48</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 13:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well  Muley  I  am not  sure 95% would  agree with  you  :) but  I  am on a rant today  have sent out  emails to  the state  and anyone else who  &quot;may&quot; care that Lorain is   literally  tossing away  a valuable asset in the garbage of  decaying infrastructure .....Oh  well  I  can but  try  but  I  have a cynical  feeling  I  will  be deleted :)  I  found it  ironic that cleveland dot  com had Great Lakes shipwrecks as a lead story  yet the captain that sailed from this  port are unknown and disgarded 
http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2008/05/04/forgotten-now-gone-part-two/
after all  they  spent one part of  their  life on the inland seas (their  stories are one of  struggle and romance)  and another in Charleston Village ( now  Lorain) ... I  think  their  stories are crying out  to  be told  but  I  believe I  am in the minority  along with  my  fellow  tree huggers and &quot;history  boneheads&quot; or  the &quot;village idiots&quot; as some have called us.......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well  Muley  I  am not  sure 95% would  agree with  you  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  but  I  am on a rant today  have sent out  emails to  the state  and anyone else who  &#8220;may&#8221; care that Lorain is   literally  tossing away  a valuable asset in the garbage of  decaying infrastructure &#8230;..Oh  well  I  can but  try  but  I  have a cynical  feeling  I  will  be deleted <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I  found it  ironic that cleveland dot  com had Great Lakes shipwrecks as a lead story  yet the captain that sailed from this  port are unknown and disgarded<br />
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after all  they  spent one part of  their  life on the inland seas (their  stories are one of  struggle and romance)  and another in Charleston Village ( now  Lorain) &#8230; I  think  their  stories are crying out  to  be told  but  I  believe I  am in the minority  along with  my  fellow  tree huggers and &#8220;history  boneheads&#8221; or  the &#8220;village idiots&#8221; as some have called us&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: muley</title>
		<link>http://buckeyerino.com/2008/05/04/is-a-courthouse-historic-because-its-a-courthouse/#comment-46</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 01:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[......I, for one, fully understand, Loraine. You have shown more passion for &quot;our&quot; home town than 95% of Lorain&#039;s population. You have earned the right to call it &quot;your&quot; home town if you like. We would be &quot;blessed&quot; to call you, &quot;one of our own&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8230;I, for one, fully understand, Loraine. You have shown more passion for &#8220;our&#8221; home town than 95% of Lorain&#8217;s population. You have earned the right to call it &#8220;your&#8221; home town if you like. We would be &#8220;blessed&#8221; to call you, &#8220;one of our own&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: thatwoman</title>
		<link>http://buckeyerino.com/2008/05/04/is-a-courthouse-historic-because-its-a-courthouse/#comment-44</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 15:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks DJW there are so  many  layers to this  question  and in some respects because it isn&#039;t &#039;MY&quot; history  I  have difficulty  in voicing an opinion.. as I  don&#039;t believe I  have the right to criticize..... .but  it is  the &quot;land&quot; of my  children and I  haven&#039;t brought them up  to  be a &quot;hyphenated  American&quot;  but  &quot;American&quot;   they  aren&#039;t for instance German -American ...  Enlgish - American or Polish- American....they  are American .... but  I believe that thinking is  in the minority  as even 2nd  third and 4 th generations who  have been born here  still  cling to their  hyphenated -America...just an observation.but until the melting pot melts- American history  and her &quot;land pioneers&quot; as opposed to  her &quot;ideal&quot; pioneers   seem to  take  a back  seat to  the &quot;old home&quot;land &quot;history&quot; .......just an ex pats perception ..Loraine]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks DJW there are so  many  layers to this  question  and in some respects because it isn&#8217;t &#8216;MY&#8221; history  I  have difficulty  in voicing an opinion.. as I  don&#8217;t believe I  have the right to criticize&#8230;.. .but  it is  the &#8220;land&#8221; of my  children and I  haven&#8217;t brought them up  to  be a &#8220;hyphenated  American&#8221;  but  &#8220;American&#8221;   they  aren&#8217;t for instance German -American &#8230;  Enlgish &#8211; American or Polish- American&#8230;.they  are American &#8230;. but  I believe that thinking is  in the minority  as even 2nd  third and 4 th generations who  have been born here  still  cling to their  hyphenated -America&#8230;just an observation.but until the melting pot melts- American history  and her &#8220;land pioneers&#8221; as opposed to  her &#8220;ideal&#8221; pioneers   seem to  take  a back  seat to  the &#8220;old home&#8221;land &#8220;history&#8221; &#8230;&#8230;.just an ex pats perception ..Loraine</p>
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		<title>By: buckeyerino</title>
		<link>http://buckeyerino.com/2008/05/04/is-a-courthouse-historic-because-its-a-courthouse/#comment-43</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 12:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, the article I had conceived that&#039;s tangential to your blog entries hasn&#039;t been written yet.  I see that this story is tangential to yours, also.  I&#039;ll post an additional link to your article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, the article I had conceived that&#8217;s tangential to your blog entries hasn&#8217;t been written yet.  I see that this story is tangential to yours, also.  I&#8217;ll post an additional link to your article.</p>
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		<title>By: buckeyerino</title>
		<link>http://buckeyerino.com/2008/05/04/is-a-courthouse-historic-because-its-a-courthouse/#comment-42</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 12:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been wrestling with this, too, and I&#039;m looking forward to reading your second installment.

Tiffin has been able to preserve many historical buildings, and many buildings with architecture that defined a past era.  The Ritz Theater and Heidelberg College have buildings that are in relatively good shape, but that&#039;s not all.  Of course, there are some churches, too.  There are many buildings of a residential nature that are also preserved well, some of which are now in use as something other than a residence.  I&#039;d say Tiffin has been more successful than many towns in preserving it&#039;s history.

My own view on this particular matter is that if engineering studies had shown the building to be structurally sound, I think a case could be made for preserving the courthouse.  Many old buildings are structurally sound, as building materials today are often flimsier that what was used in bygone eras.  An effort to preserve this courthouse, though, would require taxpayer dollars to be shoveled down a money pit.  No business or non-profit wants to buy the building and preserve it because they also realize it&#039;s a money pit.

But if the voice of the voters had said, &quot;OK, let&#039;s use our tax dollars to pay whatever it takes to preserve this courthouse,&quot; I&#039;d have been okay with that, but the truth of the matter is, the county-wide bond issue to accomplish that very purpose suffered a massive defeat this spring.  I don&#039;t advocate a position that flies in the face of democracy.  The only potential source of funding the preservation has dried up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been wrestling with this, too, and I&#8217;m looking forward to reading your second installment.</p>
<p>Tiffin has been able to preserve many historical buildings, and many buildings with architecture that defined a past era.  The Ritz Theater and Heidelberg College have buildings that are in relatively good shape, but that&#8217;s not all.  Of course, there are some churches, too.  There are many buildings of a residential nature that are also preserved well, some of which are now in use as something other than a residence.  I&#8217;d say Tiffin has been more successful than many towns in preserving it&#8217;s history.</p>
<p>My own view on this particular matter is that if engineering studies had shown the building to be structurally sound, I think a case could be made for preserving the courthouse.  Many old buildings are structurally sound, as building materials today are often flimsier that what was used in bygone eras.  An effort to preserve this courthouse, though, would require taxpayer dollars to be shoveled down a money pit.  No business or non-profit wants to buy the building and preserve it because they also realize it&#8217;s a money pit.</p>
<p>But if the voice of the voters had said, &#8220;OK, let&#8217;s use our tax dollars to pay whatever it takes to preserve this courthouse,&#8221; I&#8217;d have been okay with that, but the truth of the matter is, the county-wide bond issue to accomplish that very purpose suffered a massive defeat this spring.  I don&#8217;t advocate a position that flies in the face of democracy.  The only potential source of funding the preservation has dried up.</p>
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